heya, new to board and game - need help

[JediMessiah]

heya all,

just got the game for $10 at best buy and it looks awesome, a real d&d simulation

got some problems tho..

tried to patch but it kept telling me that it needed the play disc when i tried to play it, no matter what disc i had in

so i just reinstalled and didnt install the patches (read here somewhere that the $10 best buy game was already patched) but i did install the mods (fan fixes and livonyas)

now i can get thge game to start and work, but am still having troubles...

first off scrolling is IMPOSSIBLE. i tried the fixes from this forum (instralled logitech mouseware etc) but its still impossible to scroll

secondly, i made a chatic neutral party, killed an air elemental and a couple of zombies, but now dont know where to go (think the scrolling is making my life horrible, and the gamma is really bad)

i opened one chest, but the other is locked and i cant pick it (though maybe something was in there to help me)

is the interface really this bad with the scrolling? if so i dont think ill be able to stand playing this game, it takes longer to scroll 2 inches than to fight a battle


any help out there? am i doing something wrong?

id rally like to play this game as it looks awesome


thanks in advance


-jedimessiah

[krunch]

Try following these steps to reinstall. Plus, there is a bonus at the end of my instructions.


control panel -> add/remove programs -> uninstall Livonya's Beta 1.5.1 MOD

control panel -> add/remove programs -> uninstall Temple of Elemental Evil

Windows Exporer >> C:\Program Files\Atari\Temple of Elemental Evil >> delete what's left

Reboot

Install ToEE using the original 2 CD disks

Reboot

Install the Atari Official Patch1 -> ftp://ftp.infogrames.net/patches/to..._PATCH1_ENU.EXE

Install the Atari Official Patch2 -> ftp://ftp.infogrames.net/patches/to..._ANY-PATCH2.EXE

Install the Co8 Fan Fixes 3.0.4 -> http://www.co8.org/files/patch/ToEE...ixes_V3-0-4.zip
* Extract the executable file from the zipped file and run the executable file.

Install the Livonya's Beta 1.5.1 MOD -> "http://files.co8.org/mods/Livonya's Beta 1.5.1 Mod Setup.exe"
* Copy the content of what is inside the double quotes to the URL address bar of your web browser and click go or press enter. Select to save the file to your hard drive, not open it. After it is on your hard drive, then, run the executable and install this MOD.
** If you use the setup.exe version of Livonya's MOD, you do NOT need to add the single temple.dll fix as her MOD uses his temple.dll patched file.

Reboot

You can replace the ToEE.exe executable file with the no-cd fix executable file after you reboot your computer the third time.
* You can get the ToEE no-cd fix below.
DOWNLOAD *** Temple of Elemental Evil v2.0 [ENGLISH] No-CD/Fixed EXE (V2.0 for ENGLISH ToEE)
-> http://m0002.gamecopyworld.com/games...tal_evil.shtml

[Lord Plothos]

Definitely follow this advice. The game should not be played unpatched. The no-cd thing is unavoidable for some people without the crack, so do that too.

That said, I'd hesitate to install Liv's mod right off the bat. It's significantly harder than the original version, and if it's your first time through you may enjoy the easier version more. When finished, you can install Liv's mod for a greater challenge and some new quests/encounters/etc. Just a suggestion.

Regarding the chest: if you can't pick it (considering the game gives you a 20 on the roll to do so), it's beyond your abilities at the moment. You'll need to do something to improve your skill in this area. At least one bard song will do it, as will a second level dex-boosting cleric spell. So will gaining a level and adding you your open locks skill, or getting masterwork thieves tools. (You can open the roll window by clicking the 20-sided die icon above the menu in the lower right corner, and click on the blue "failed" text where it reports the result of your lockpick attempt. This will open a new window giving you a breakdown of what you rolled and what you needed to roll. This will tell you how much you need to improve to open the chest.)

[JediMessiah]

heya guys,

thanks for quick response, im gonna try these patches again (was messing with it several times last night)

as for the chest, id love to come back to it, just dont know where to go next, trapped in this little village with 2 rooms and nothing to do

maybe once i paly it patches right, ill be able to find where im going

also, the manula says hitting tab will highlight doors and chest etc, but it does not, was this featrure removed or moved to another key?


-jedi

[JediMessiah]

ok, im up to the step where im to install livonyas mod, but am gonna take lord plothos' advice and not install it (i only installed it the first time because ppl are raving about it and i didnt ahve to mess with those other steps from the install directions in this forum )

just finished installing fan fixes, what next?


-jedimessiah

[Lord Plothos]

If you don't install Liv's mod, you're going to need temple.zip, I believe.

You can get it here:

Temple.zip
----------
http://www.jadri.com/temple.zip
-or-
http://www.co8.org/files/patch/temple.zip

1. Unzip the patch. (Double click the folder you downloaded and choose the extract all files option in the corner of the window (XP))
2. Find the file in you GAME'S directory called "temple.dll" and remove it. (Put it somewhere you can find it again.)
3. Take the "temple.dll" file from the unzipped patch folder and put it where the original file was.
4. Inside the patch folder should be a folder called "data". Inside that folder should be three new folders. Take all of them and put them into the game's "data" folder.

Once that's in there, you should be all set to go. If your previous game was a Liv-modded game, you should probably start again from scratch, though you can use the same characters, if you wish.

[JediMessiah]

heya,

thanks lord, but i may have gone too fast...

i rebooted, unzipped the entire temple.dll into toee folder (overwrote all) and then replaced my toee.exe.

did a test and it works great, i can scroll all over the place now

only concerns..didnt follow YOUR exact step (didnt do your steps 2 and 4, basically just overwrote, didnt save the temple.dll or do anything with the 3 data folders)

should i start over? am i gonn have problems down the line? my problems seemed solved now, and i did follow the direction from the sticky (current patches and mos) from this forum


thanks for all your help


-jedi

[Cerulean the Blue]

You are fine. The temple.zip was actually designed to be installed the way you did. When you unzip it to your ToEE folder it puts everything where it is supposed to go. That is the way I have always installed it.

As far as the chaotic neutral opening, if you can't get the chest open you are pretty much stuck. You almost have to have a Rogue to get through it. Of course, any character with a full point in open locks should be able to open it, since the game does give you a 20 on the dice roll to open it.

[JediMessiah]

heya,

havent tried again since i reinstalled properly.

is there a first time alignment you recommend? or several?

as to the chest..i opened the first one that gave me a key to the second door...in second door with zombies i couldnt open the chest (with a rogue with 20 dex and 4 points towards lockpick w/ regular lthieves tools)

-jedi

[krunch]

easiest = magic user with knock spell memorized and ready
try = any spellslinger with cat's grace and, or fox's cunning memorized and ready to cast on rogue

* sometimes, its an intelligence that counts, not dexterity

[krunch]

Different alignments only brings your party in to the game using a different background, the opening vignette. I do not think there are better and worse alignments. It's only preference and choice regarding the kinds of responses and decisions you want your party to make, how often and when to talk, kill, lie, bluff, cheat, or help others.

[Cerulean the Blue]

Originally Posted by JediMessiah

heya,

havent tried again since i reinstalled properly.

is there a first time alignment you recommend? or several?

as to the chest..i opened the first one that gave me a key to the second door...in second door with zombies i couldnt open the chest (with a rogue with 20 dex and 4 points towards lockpick w/ regular lthieves tools)

-jedi

Well, I don't know what to tell you reguarding that chest. I've opened it on many times with a rogue with 18 dex and 4 points toward open locks and with regular lockpicks. Hopefully it was just an artifact of your install. You don't have the option of any of the spells everybody else has listed, as they are all second level spells and you are stuck at first level in the opening viginettes. The same goes for leveling up and coming back later. The bard song Lord Plothos mentioned might help, assuming you have bard. Try it again (several times if necessary) and see what happens. If you click on the blue 20 sided die icon in the lower right of your screen it will open a window that shows the results of the dice rolls (success, failure, hit, miss, etc.). Clicking on any of the words in blue will open another window that will show the actuall roll, all modifiers, and the DC you were attampting against. If you are just rolling low keep trying till you get it. If you are rolling 20s and still not opening it, post what you see when you click on the blue failure and we'll go from there.

As for alignments to start with, CN is my favorite. LG, NG, CN, LE and CE have combat in the opening viginette (though LE's combat is so easy it's hard to call combat). The rest just have talking. I prefer the combat ones because you get xp before the game really starts, and you might get some loot. But really the party alignments just add to the replayablility of the game more than anything else.

[Allyx]

Originally Posted by JediMessiah

i couldnt open the chest (with a rogue with 20 dex and 4 points towards lockpick w/ regular lthieves tools)

Originally Posted by krunch

DOWNLOAD *** Temple of Elemental Evil v2.0 [ENGLISH] No-CD/Fixed EXE (V2.0 for ENGLISH ToEE)
-> http://m0002.gamecopyworld.com/game...ntal_evil.shtml

You did use the v2.0 no-cd patch didn't you? I tried the v1.1 patch out of curiosity once - and got random rolls for picking locks instead of instantly taking 20 - not good as I was playing Liv's mod at the time (she boosted all the pick lock DC's!)

[krunch]

version 1 is for after installing only the atari patch1, hence the name version 1

version 2 [is newer] and is for after installing both atari patch1 and atari patch2, hence the name version 2