Circle of Eight Mod Pack 5.0.0 FINAL

[sweet sugar]

Hi! Indeed great work! But i have an issue. I cannot get rid of patch 3. When i install patch 2 on it it says that: unknown version of aplication E:\ the Temple of Elemental Evil\ToEE.exe. Any ideas?

[erkper]

You could try installing patch 1 over 3, then upgrade to patch 2. If that fails, you may have to uninstall the whole thing and install from scratch.

[sweet sugar]

I have another problem. Because i bought game already patched to 3 and uninstaling the game will be not to good idea.

And i have no idea where to download patch 1.0 polish version.

And i have polish version of the game what i must do to change to english version?

[Half Knight]

Originally Posted by sweet sugar

I have another problem. Because i bought game already patched to 3 and uninstaling the game will be not to good idea.

And i have no idea where to download patch 1.0 polish version.

And i have polish version of the game what i must do to change to english version?

Humm, Maggit should know, he's polish too

[maggit]

Well, first of all, I never knew there was patch 3 for the Polish version. o_O
Where did you get your ToEE from? CD-Action, or Extra-Klasyka? Anyway,
both should be patch 2 versions. I helped a guy from CD-A to run this stuff
on his computer so that he could write a review of the modpack... hmm which
reminds me, I've got to buy the new issue and see if it's there.

Well, first of all try downloading the patch from here:
http://www.gram.pl/pliki_szczegoly.asp?id=321

If that doesn't work try installing Co8 5.0.0 and an older CMF than 5.0.5
(I think that 5.0.2 is the most stable to this date) without applying the
patch. Then go back and tell us what's going on.

[sweet sugar]

This not working i instaled all like you say but some errors appearing.

[maggit]

What kind of errors? If you are having problems with the
Temple Front-End then everything is fine (sic!). But first
tell us what's going on. Step by step. Oh, it might help if
you told us what OS you are running. XP? Vista? ME?

[sweet sugar]

0004 : Error : One of the game folders can't be accessed! Make sure that no other application uses any of the game folders, then try again. [ first error appears when i try to lunch the game ]

[ error two is with that frontend that appears when i click on the Co8 ]

I have Windows XP Profesional

[maggit]

OK. Than everything is fine. I have this problem too.

Go to your ToEE directory and change the name of
the following folders:

<toee root directory>
"data" to "data.toee"
"data.co8" to "data"

<toee\modules>
"toee" to "whatever"
"toee.dat" to "whatever.dat"
"co8.5.0.0" to "toee"
"co8.5.0.0.dat" to "toee"

Now go to your new "toee" directory in "modules"
and copy the file "temple.dll" to your ToEE root
directory.

Now, run the game through ToEE.exe and everything
should work fine. Oh, if you want to change the number
of PCs/NPCs in your party don't use the Front-End. Use
the PC count patcher instead. If Front-End
acts up like that it's best that you don't use it at all because
it MAY mess up your install.

Also be sure to turn autosave off as well as any disk space
scanning software (such as antiviruses) or it will corrupt your
saved games.

[sweet sugar]

not working, exactly the same error like previous.

[maggit]

Did you run it through ToEE.exe?

[sweet sugar]

Everything is fine to the moment when movie appears then kicks from the game.

[maggit]

Hmm... OK, try one more thing. Go to:
"toee\data\scr\co8\
and run the delpyc.cmd
Copy it to "data\scr\"
and run it again. Close the directories
and run the game.

[sweet sugar]

Hmmmm! But i don't have folder named co8 in scr folder.

delpyc.cmd... nowhere.

there is no folders in scr folder only many many data aplications.

[maggit]

Hmmmm... could you re-apply the CMF 5.0.2 and try the steps I gave
you in my previous post?

[sweet sugar]

Originally Posted by maggit

Hmmmm... could you re-apply the CMF 5.0.2 and try the steps I gave
you in my previous post?

And what will that change? Nothing.
I don't know but maybe i have wrong CMF 5.0.2

Kicks me from the game after intro.

[maggit]

It may change one thing. To patch Co8 correctly you have to activate the mod through the front-end first which you, out of obvious reasons, couldn't do. If that doesn't help I'm all out of ideas.

[sweet sugar]

Well... Because i have very stupid computer that kind of situations not suprised me.

Something is going on. game runnes but there is very big mess. i reinstaled the mod. Now wat i must do?

I think something wrong is with that front-end.

[sweet sugar]

Ok game works fine. I just change some things and wuala . My last question is. Is there a polish version of the mod? If so where i can get it?

I haven't got any new portraits why?

[maggit]

You have to download a portrait pack. The portraits haven't been included in the
modpack. As for the Polish version, no there's no translation. I used to work on
one but my files got corrupted and I abandoned the project.

Hmm... May I suggest something to Co8? Why don't you standardize the mod
so that is always in English, hm? I think it wouldn't grow that much if the next
version of Co8 included all dialogue and menu files from the English version,
this way players like us could avoid linguistic schizophrenia. Hmm come to
think of it, we could also use the voice overs... I know my bro didn't finished the
game because he was annoyed by having to switch from Polish to English and
vice versa.

[sweet sugar]

Anyway thanks for help and i wish you and your team many good modifications like that Co8. See you soon.

[Gaear]

Originally Posted by maggit

Hmm... May I suggest something to Co8? Why don't you standardize the mod so that is always in English, hm?

Don't think I understand maggit ... the modpack is always in English.

[Half Knight]

Originally Posted by maggit

I think it wouldn't grow that much if the next
version of Co8 included all dialogue and menu files from the English version,
this way players like us could avoid linguistic schizophrenia.

@gaear

i think he means including in the pack all the others dialogues, not only the new ones.

If i understand well, their game should be in polish, and the modpack adds new content in english. So, while you ask directions in polish, suddendly you'll find talking to another charcter in english...if they take Meleny (in their version she's got a polish dlg) and Ronald (new charcter, which isn't in any patch, or their original game) in their party for example, you'll be changing languages from one to another.
I guess i'll have a similar problem with a spanish version of the game. but i hate spanish translations (argentinian spanish, and spanish spanish sound too different)

If the english dialogues are included in the pack, they would have all the dialogues in the same language.

[Aesandil]

Originally Posted by Gaear

Don't think I understand maggit ... the modpack is always in English.

I think I understand and can explain, elaborating a bit (hope it won`t be too unclear). Maggit didn`t mean the modpack per se. The Co8 Mod is obviously in English, which means that every text and voice file you altered in some way or simply added will be (should be) also displayed in English. But, you haven`t changed every single file (as there was no need to, mostly when it comes to the voices).

So, what results when the ToEE vanilla install isn`t English is a mix of languages. Let me give you an example: take Belsornig of the Water Temple. His dialogue text is displayed in English for me, yet he speaks in Polish. His priests (Nalorrem and the other one the name of whom I`d forgotten) have dialogue texts in Polish (so there was no Co8 changes for them) - and of course no voices here, as they are mute. There are characters who have some of their dialogue lines Polish, the rest English, there are even cases when the voice is Polish just to have the last line(-s) to be uttered in English (Alrrem). Parts of text at the character creation or skills section are Polish, yet most is in English, etc.

Personally it doesn`t bother me that much, and at times I find it somewhat amusing. Gives me an "unique" opportunity to see if our translators didn`t screw up by inadvertently altering the meaning of some of the dialogues, making bad choices, or used a wrong word for their English counterpart. It`s also quite useful in knowing what has been, and what has been not altered by Co8 mods.

But, back to what maggit suggested: as I see it, he would like the Co8 mod to include *all* the dialogue/description files that exist in ToEE. And hopefully even the voice files. This way those of us who don`t own the English client could have the game running fully in English. I understand where he is coming from, and I certainly would welcome that.
I can see the issues too. Now, it would be redundant to those of you who have the EN version of ToEE. It would also increase the size of the modpack (not the text files, but probably the sound ones), not sure by how much. There might be some other difficulties, too.
Could be also an option to make two versions of the modpack - one for the owners of the English version of the game, the other for the non-English. Whether it would be possible without much effort and worth the trouble, is the question that remains.

I still curse our national distributor for not giving us a freedom of choice (they never do with cRPG games, bastards). I don`t even mean an additional CD, a downloadable patch would do. As it stands, there is no way to buy a non-Polish version of the game in the country, I don`t think there ever been. What is left is an option to use Amazon.com and the likes to make an order, or try to get it cheap (or for free from the net) by illegal means (bleh).

Originally Posted by maggit

helped a guy from CD-A to run this stuff
on his computer so that he could write a review of the modpack... hmm which
reminds me, I've got to buy the new issue and see if it's there.

It is there, page 97. Could`ve used a bit longer description as for my taste, but nonetheless, was a nice surprise to see it being mentioned. Maybe the article will convince at least a few people to give the new, improved, Co8-ed ToEE a chance.

[Half Knight]

Originally Posted by Aesandil

I can see the issues too. Now, it would be redundant to those of you who have the EN version of ToEE. It would also increase the size of the modpack (not the text files, but probably the sound ones), not sure by how much. There might be some other difficulties, too.
Could be also an option to make two versions of the modpack - one for the owners of the English version of the game, the other for the non-English. Whether it would be possible without much effort and worth the trouble, is the question that remains.

Well, since the dlg files are in a separate folder, it wouldn't be that hard or difficult.

By simply posting a rar file containing the folder with them, those who need it could download. The same for the other files, and thus, the extra weight on the modpack could be avoided.

Basically: you download the modpack, and if you need or want the english dlgs, just download them as separate folder and then you put them where it belongs.

I'll do it, but my install it's so fiddled and modifyed that at this point i don't know what i've changed and what not. i could post the original-vanilla ToEE files tho...

[maggit]

@Gaear, sorry for being unclear.

If Co8 wouldn't want to add those files to an installer, a separate pack could be made
which would be installed before applying the modpack. 50 megs isn't that much, if you
wan't to have the comfort of playing the English version of the game.

@Aesandil, thanks for the info. I'll have to check CDA out some time. As for
translations, they do suck at times but it's a really ungrateful job doing a translation.
Finding the right equivalent in a language is difficult but satisfying everyone - impossible.

[Shiningted]

We used to provide all the .dlg and .py files, but the non-modded ones were removed to keep the install size down.

[Gaear]

Thanks for the clarification, guys. I do see some issues here though. Firstly, adding all the voice mp3s to the modpack would triple its size, so that's pretty much out. Second, changing everything to English assumes that every non-English speaking player would want their entire game in English, and I don't think we can make that assumption.

As to making this stuff available as optional downloads, the voice files would probably too large to store on our server, and gathering all the other dialogue files and every other language descriptive file in the game sounds like a lot of work. I guess I wouldn't oppose it if someone else wanted to do it, but I don't think I'm going to undertake that myself.

[Half Knight]

Originally Posted by Gaear

As to making this stuff available as optional downloads, the voice files would probably too large to store on our server, and gathering all the other dialogue files and every other language descriptive file in the game sounds like a lot of work. I guess I wouldn't oppose it if someone else wanted to do it, but I don't think I'm going to undertake that myself.

Okay, i've checked, and only the dlg folder (the original-vanilla dlgs) it's 2,08 m of size.
That would take like...humm, eigth to ten rar files to post here.
Maybe too much to post, but i wouldn't have problem to email them if somebody wants them.

I know, the sound would be good too...but it's 160 m of size!

[sweet sugar]

Hello again . I just finished the game and want to play again with some new portraits. My question is where i can download this picture pack???