Tales of the Wild Coast Discussion Thread

Hi Folks
For what it's worth, I just finished a runthrough that similar to what the v6.0 will be like without Verbobonc, the Moathouse respawn, and Hickory Branch. Other than a few tight spots at the lower experience levels (the Moathouse Bugbears and Grunds Fishstory) I had no serious difficulties, and my group of 3 PCs + Meleny were 15th Level before going to finish off Zuggtmoy, and 16th Level when they were done.

Allow me to add my 2 CP worth on the CE "Kill Them All with no consequences" debate. Personally, I would feel that there would be at least SOME sort of response from the forces of good, if you wiped out the VIllage of Hommlet. Here's why

1.) Hommlet IS important to the forces of Good. If it wasn't, why did the Viscount of Verbobonc hire Rufus and Burne to start a defense force and pay for the construction of the castle they are building ?? Castles are expensive to build, maintain, and garrison, so it stands to reason that any town that has it's own castle MUST be important. That means that if Hommlet were wiped out, SOMEBODY would investigate and take action. Nulb on the other hand, because of it's "Wild West" semi-unlawless nature, you could probably wipe out with impunity.

2.) How would the forces of good know who to look for you ask ?? Simple: Unless you went house to house in the middle of the night, were extremely quiet, and got extremely lucky, someone would get away, hop on a horse (just because you have to walk everywhere doesn't mean the "natives" have to) and ride away to describe your party and what you were doing to the people of Hommlet.

The Royal Canadian

 

Grand Theft Auto...those cops NEVER run out of officers. o.o That always made me think after about 2 solid hours of running from and killing them.

Oh and hi everyone, I'm back.

My two cents worth in here is that the 'law enforcement' after doing these deeds should start out slightly weaker than your characters, maybe have a few more in number. If those are defeated, a stronger force is sent after you, and then after that it continues to escalate.

It kinda makes sense seeing how there were warriors of different levels of strength.

 

I agree with Gaear, but playing devils advocate, the Viscount of Verb didnt seem to give a damn when Drow were invading the city.

 

There will have a end in the game, although of the name of the thread?

[edit] I mean: after to deal with Zughtmoy, we will have the option to go ahead, right? So, we have an "ende" here, and so the game continues forever, or will have another "end game"?

I wonder if we will have some of that draws for any important thing that happens in the game... I just love the end of the game!

 

This is something I don't quite understand either. There is already a great story, with a beginning, middle and end, which has nice multiple endings which ties up loose ends. So forgive me for not understanding why that is inadequate for some, and the need to add an addendum to that story and create an additional supplemental ending? Am I the only one that feels is excessive, and reminds them of a never-ending soap opera?

PS i don't wish to appear rude to those who have already put forth so much great work and effort, but I fear that it may ruin some of the storytelling that already exists in TOEE, and could be adding depth to the already existing storyline.

 

Here's how I see the "Butchers of Homlett" being taken care of. After laying waste to the town, and going house to house to kill every last innocent, even after all of those wandering town guards group up for a final assault with help from the newly teamed clerics of St Cuthbert and Jaroo the druid, the evil party comes out victorious with a pile of dead bodies creating a dam in the creek running through town.

Except they forgot to keep count and one little boy, from that house near the front of town where dozens of kids play and the cats and dogs never move, hides himself in one of those empty barrels outside a house. You know the one where you find 10 arrows or something. Well, when the evil party is feasting on fresh liver with farva beans, he slips out of town to make his way to Verbononc to warn the town council, who in turn send a message to the Circle of Eight for help in dealing with this new evil threat to the land. The Co8 themselves teleport in, throwing lightning bolts, fireballs, and gate in celestial help in unimaginable nu,bers to crush the evil party in just 2 rounds!

Except the boy forgot to pick up a +1 weapon from the discarded equipment that the evil party had dumped, since +1 meant nothing to them and they had killed all the merchants so they had no one to sell them to, and the boy had a random encounter with a group of shadows, and not being able to flee or hit them, since he had no magic weapon, he gave up all hope of bringing the evil doers to justice and ended his game.

 

Gaear

Thanks for the answear! Ill wait for news about that!

If this Half Knight needs some help about that, I'll love to help with some draws!

 

A thought on the evil party (The butchers of Hommlet). I believe other evil groups would also react (along with the forces of good) if they saw a particular evil party getting too powerful. Evil does not trust evil.

Remember the old west gunslingers were always trying to determine who was the fastest. The only way to get the reputation of being the fastest was to beat the gunslinger who was considered the fastest. So how do you prove that you are badder than the butchers of Hommlet, either masscre a bigger town or destroy the butchers.

Since destroying a bigger town would attract the forces of good, it would make more sense to build your rep by killing the butchers. Not only would you be seen as good guys for eliminating the butchers, but you also get rid of the competition that is drawing attention to evil activity. The party could go back to their evil ways with a veneer of goodness to cloak them for awhile. Or the group could secretly eliminate the butchers leaving no trace.

Also remember some of the people in Hommlet represent the forces of evil operating in the town. The other evil groups make not like that you eliminated members that were bring in revenue and some have a code of honor to avenge fallen members.

Just a thought.

 

In my high level mod I had the evil party invade Hommlet at Lareths request (which would only happen if you saved him from Burnes Tower and had the golden skull).

A super Lareth vs evil party would be cool.

 

In the "Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil" adventure, there are an old and powerfull Lareth a little mad becose of a party of adventures...
Hum... I know that ya guys are having a lot of work here, but a little look at this book shall give some new ideas for ya. A "refresh" in the Temple will not be a bad idea, hum?

Well, as always, just wondering.

 

I was just saying that to a friend today, that I would love to see a RttToEE module (like the KotB module) made. I have no programming experience or I might do it myself.