Thank you so much!

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  1. Branstock

    Branstock Member

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    Hello all, in a sentimental mood I've bought from GOG the ToEE game which I've played more than 10 years ago, and only by chance I've discovered the KotB "expansion module"... And what can I say? THANK YOU!
    I've played the original B2 D&D module when I was 14 and we took literally MONTHS of game to finish it since our wonderful Dungeon Master kept inventing more and more plots and sub-plots to hold our party engaged in the Keep (I remember a bank robbery, an alchemist's laboratory we've messed up creating awful monsters in it, my female cleric ended up marrying the Castellan, the attack of three red dragons, and so on....).
    Again, thanks a lot for having brought me again in my youth - even if for a few moments.

    Now I've finished KotB once with a good-aligned party, now I'm trying to play it with neutral characters but I think I'm stuck with the "secret door bug" and trying to manage to get to the sewers...
    Thanks again!
     
  2. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Global Moderator

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    Hey dude! Glad you are having fun. There are 3 alchemists laboratories in KotB which you may or may not find, all pretty much in plain sight. (The bank robbery plot in our game sort of fell by the wayside with the leaving of the modder who was meant to handle the bank - alas, its an empty building as you no doubt noticed).

    The secret door bug should not be a thing since there is the Secret Door Tool that you would have had to use to get off the initial shopmap, are you using that?
     
  3. Branstock

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    Hi and thanks for the answer!
    I haven't found the laboratories but I presume that one should be in the Inner Bailey and one in the Mad Wizard's tower.

    I have tried several times to find the secret doow to the sewer, both with the Secret Door Tool and the Search (Concentrated) but without success. Is there a special way to find it?

    Besides this, are you planning to release some other update to KotB? Or any other adventure with the ToEE engine?
    Thanks again, and keep up the good work!
     
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    erkper Bugbear Monk Supporter

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    If you're looking for an "in-process" new adventure with the ToEE engine, check out the Icewind Dale Total Conversion forum in the Modding section. Allyx, with some help from Ted and a few others, is working to convert the Icewind Dale game using the ToEE engine. The demo is complete and well done, I for one am eagerly anticipating more. :)
     
  5. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Global Moderator

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    Yeah, there's IWD, I am slowly working on that (a scan of the 'flags' thread will show I added some new flags just the other day :) ). The next KotB patch has had a huge amount of work done but is on the backburner for the immediate future.

    Re secret doors - well, they're not the only way down to the sewer, you know? I can tihnk of an opening to the area under the Keep right in the Outer Bailey.

    Otherwise there's a few doors hidden here and there, but they had pretty hi DCs for memory. If you really want to know, try...
    the basement of the Merchant's Guild (if they let you in), and the basement of the pub - both have grilled areas that should conceal a door into the sewer.
     
  6. Branstock

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    I've seen the "probable" entrance in the pub's cellar but I didn't manage to find it. I'll try with the Merchants' Guild (I'm in).
    And I've missed altogether any other straight entrance to the sewers...
     
  7. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Global Moderator

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    Well maybe it's a bit counter-intuitive, but its in the, err, well. Middle of the market place - just use rope. Admittedly it's probably a bit suspect that they get their drinking water from the sewer, but once you get down there, you find the well keeps going to a water table way below the sewer lines.

    If you could be bothered, please let me know the search ranks of your best character looking for the door in the pub - that may be a bug.
     
  8. Branstock

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    Thanks! I've tried to search in the market area with my Rogue character and the result is "You've found something"... but I could not manage to get there! Maybe is this a "fake detection"?

    How can I check the search rank of a character?
     
  9. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Global Moderator

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    Search ranks are in the character's Skills area, but the Secret Door search tool checks every character's Search abilities, but centred on whoever uses the tool (this is sub-optimal - it can have a character find a door from the wrong side of the map, or miss one right next to them if the person using the tool is using it elsewhere - but that's how it works). The 'you found something" is probably a trap on one of the sellers' inventory chests, that's a funny little thing from the original game that probably pops up in KotB too. But the well in the market place doesn't have to be searched for, you just walk up to it and Use Rope from the radial menu of whoever is carrying rope.
     

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